I'm interested in buying a new handgun so I came to the most reliable place I know of to ask for advice.I want to splurge on my next handgun (I already have a Glock 43 and an IWI Jericho 941PL, both in 9mm) so I'm looking at getting an HK possibly. I'm debating on whether I want to get a USP45 or 40, the HK45, an HK Mk23, or a P30L in.40 or 9mm. Thinking I'll eventually be putting a hearing protection device on the end of this one, by the way.So what do you all think? Are these all poor choices? Should I look at something else? I'm all ears here.
That depends on you. If you have easy access to ammunition and the little increase in price for 45 doesn't bother you then I'd say go with that just so you have another caliber to play with. I would try and get the LEM trigger on whichever one you go with. Or buy the LEM upgrade later. Makes the first trigger pull so much lighter than the standard double action pull. One thing to consider though is the bore axis on both guns.
You can't get quite as high in the back strap of those guns because of the way they are designed. The p30 is still easily controlled but the HK 45 will give you more muzzle flip than most 45's will. I either currently own or have owned every gun discussed in this thread.
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I will say if you want to suppress it I'm a huge fan of the USP Compact tactical 45. 45 is naturally subsonic and this is the best choice for any suppressed handgun caliber. If you're a huge dude and money is not an object I would suggest the mark 23 because personally I find that to be a novel and interesting gun to own. I carry a p2000sk, and my girlfriend has a p30sk and while I love the economics of the hk45 it was too large for me to carry standing only five9. I love the p30sk with the extended grip mag but again if carrying is not an issue I would, and this is based purely on Aesthetics, go for the compact Tactical USP. The hk45 is much more ergonomic in the full-sized version, but I'm a sucker for the traditional USP look. I absolutely love my Sig 229 and have a 40 and 357 Sig Barrel for it and wouldn't trade it for the world, but it is a wide and heavy gun, and on top of that you weren't asking about any Sig firearms.
The mark 23 is a brick but like I said if you're 6-1 it won't matter. If you're curious about anything specifically or want pics feel free to PM me.
I am in the market for a 'buy once cry once' full-size pistol that I can suppress for home defense. On my way home from work today I stopped at my LGS to browse there selection of pistols. I noticed they had an HK45 in the case do I asked the guy behind the counter, 'what are the main differences between the HK45 and USP 45?' He said, 'well, the USP line has been discontinued and the HK45 is what replaced it.' Is this true or is it a falsehood?If it isn't true, do you guys know the main differences between the two pistols? From what I can tell it seems to be mainly ergonomics and round capacity.I also asked the guy if there were any disadvantages to using a.45 ACP caliber pistol as a suppressor platform (instead of 9mm) and he said, 'it's actually better than 9mm because it's quieter.' Is that true?
Aside from ammo price, recoil, and round capacity are there any disadvantages to using.45 ACP as a defensive round? I don't have any.45 ACP guns and the thought of a thick HK chambered in that caliber with a suppressor gets me excited.I'm between a lot of different guns right now (FNX 45 tactical, XDM, HK45, USP, Sig P226 MK25, etc.) and I want to have all the information before I decide.Once last thing.
The LGS is selling their rental HK45 with a threaded barrel in FDE bi-tone for like 1050. The guy said it's had like 100 rounds through it cause everyone balks at the price of the case gun and subsequently ignores the range gun. First, is that price good? Second, should I believe him?. H&K’s website still lists the USP, so I’m assuming it’s still being produced.I believe you’re right - the primary difference is the ergonomics.
The gun also has a standard 1913 rail, ambi controls, and the o-ring barrel that the higher end USP variants have.Standard 230 grain.45 acp is subsonic, so It is quieter than most 115 or 124 grain 9x19mm ammo, but there’s plenty of subsonic 9x19mm ammo out there. I think you pretty well covered the downsides. My first handgun was a USP 45; the size helps to soak up some of the recoil. Ok I have owned all four of these guns, I rank them in this order MK25, FN, HK45, XDM not really in the league ranked last.MK25 smooth, reliable, proven, best triggerFN 15 round mag, rmr capable, decent trigger, DA/SA with de cocker and safety option. Drawback plastic construction, trigger is decent but not great.HK45 (HK fanboys trigger warning) 10 rd mag, not a great trigger, worst DA I have ever shot. Bought one for 650$ Put 5 mags through and sold it.USP is the route to go if you want an HK, the HK45 will vibrate your hand to hell, save your money even with the prices dropping. Expect the downvotes from HK fanboys45 will run subsonic based on ammo and be quieter than some 9mm, both Sig 226 and FNX tactical make great suppressor hosts can’t go wrong with either.
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Honestly I would go with the USP 45 over the HK45. The USP series is still being made and things like mags and parts I would think are more available due to the USP line having been around for so long. Plus, holster options and things like threaded barrels on the new and used market would be available which in some cases, can save you money because H&K isn't cheap.The used range rental they are offering is overpriced and I'm sure you could find a new one online for a much better price. I've seen USP 45's on the used market anywhere from $400- $600 with things like extra mags or even holsters thrown in to sweeten the deal. Most of the time they are also in really good shape with some holster wear if that.9mm is also quieter to suppress then.45 which I get doesn't make sense since.45 is subsonic but the tone you hear is much more pleasant with 9mm then 45. Is.45 a good home defense option.sure it is but if I were you I would look at something chambered in 9mm for a number of reasons.
Ammo is cheaper being a big one and 9mm sounds better suppressed. Capacity with most handguns will also be more compared to a 45 and recoil management is much easier with 9mm. Just remember though when it comes to H&K, things like mags and parts are always going to be expensive because well, HK!
Sig, Glock, FNH, etc mags are usually a bit better when it comes to parts and aftermarket support.I will say if you decide to go HK you cant go wrong and if you want to go USP then I think you will really like it. I have USP 9mm I got new for $500 off of Gun Broker and its a top favorite for me. Only thing I don't like is the grip texture which doesn't offer much but some talon grips/grip tape solved that issue just fine.You have any question feel free to ask me.